L34 Torana V8 Dual Coil 4 Lobe Points Cam Distributors

VRD recently overhauled/restored/recommissioned two L34 Torana V8 4 Lobe points cam/dual coil distributors for a customer based in Invercargill N.Z.  Two distributors and various customer-supplied spares were selected, restored and overhauled to arrive at two complete distributors by repairing various key rare piece parts in the customer's collection of spare items to enable installation and re-use.

One distributor is fitted with a new twin coil post cap we provided by inserting an additional coil post to an NORS brown bakelite standard Holden V8 single post cap.

 

Completed L34 Distributors Ready for Dispatch 

Completed L34 Distributors Ready for Dispatch 

Temporary tags on caps denote distributor (as opposed to engine) firing order.  Provides ease of installation for customer who can reconcile distributor and engine firing orders to ensure correct lead placement.

Temporary tags on caps denote distributor (as opposed to engine) firing order.  Provides ease of installation for customer who can reconcile distributor and engine firing orders to ensure correct lead placement.

Twin coil post caps with original on LHS and item on RHS of picture being newly "manufactured" cap

Twin coil post caps with original on LHS and item on RHS of picture being newly "manufactured" cap

Freshly lubricated and assembled centrifugal advance mechanism and 4 lobe points cam

Freshly lubricated and assembled centrifugal advance mechanism and 4 lobe points cam

Broken centre shroud on one dual circuit rotor with secondary crack also visible

Broken centre shroud on one dual circuit rotor with secondary crack also visible

Remnants of broken shroud machined away, crack ground out and new black bakelite shroud ready for bonding in place. 

Remnants of broken shroud machined away, crack ground out and new black bakelite shroud ready for bonding in place. 

New shroud epoxied in place and crack void potted with epoxy.

New shroud epoxied in place and crack void potted with epoxy.

The customer supplied 3 caps and rotors and all had signs of rotor to cap interference during previous operation.  The broken rotor shroud pictured would be the end result of rotor to cap interference.  Careful final assembly and clearance checks ensured no interference issues now exist on either of the two finished distributor assemblies.

OEM quality control and tolerance stack-up considerations seemed to be lacking a little with these (low volume) production items.

One cap and rotor amongst the spare parts provided by the customer had clear evidence of electrical arcing/tracking across the bakelite insulating surfaces.  As the offset carbon coil post brush that communicates with the "ring" contact on the dual circuit rotor is some distance from the rotor centreline, this carbon brush has a high rubbing velocity inflicted on it my the  ring contact, whereas the conventional on-centre carbon brush contact experiences very little relative rubbing velocity.  Accordingly, the offset carbon brush experiences a high wear rate and the carbon dust worn from the brush deposits itself on the rotor and cap interior and can lead to cross-firing and arcing in the interior of the cap.  To ensure this does not happen, this design trait needs to be recognised, and the distributor maintained accordingly, with regular cleaning of the cap interior and rotor to remove carbon dust residue and to ensure the required insulation integrity exists.

4 lobe points cam, dual points, dual condensers of the two completely electrically independent ignition circuits.  45 degree distributor firing intervals = 90 degree engine firing intervals.  With each circuit serving only 4 cylinders of t…

4 lobe points cam, dual points, dual condensers of the two completely electrically independent ignition circuits.  45 degree distributor firing intervals = 90 degree engine firing intervals.  With each circuit serving only 4 cylinders of the V8 engine and the engine firing order successively  alternating from one circuit to the other, the dwell behaviour of each circuit and coil saturation time is akin to a 4 cylinder engine, so high RPM spark intensity is far superior to a standard 8 lobe cam/single coil V8 distributor.  Due to the independence of the two circuits, careful setting of the 45 degree firing interval between each circuit during final rig testing is crucial to ensure all engine cylinders see the same spark advance during engine operation.

A now well outdated, but still clever and interesting design.

Bespoke Holden Grey Dual Coil Racing Distributor

Holden Grey six cylinder dual coil distributor development and final rig testing completed this week.  This distributor uses a 3 lobe points cam custom ground for Vintage Racing Developments by Clive Cams in Victoria.  An additional coil lead post resides in the distributor cap to communicate to the secondary circuit on the dual rotor button track.  This design uses 2 completely electrically independent circuits and two ignition coils, such that each coil only serves 3 engine cylinders and accordingly has very desirable dwell/charge soak behaviour for retention of spark energy at higher RPM.

The ultimate points-triggered battery/coil distributor for use in CAMS historic classes that must retain points triggering.  Dwell for each 3 cylinder circuit in this distributor is in the region of 56 degrees (compared to circa 38 degrees for a standard single point/single circuit/single coil/6 lobe cam six cylinder distributor).  Six cylinder analogue to 4 lobe cam L34 Torana dual coil distributor.

Holden V8 Racing Distributor

Holden V8 BOSCH Distributor

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Advance mechanism modified by TIG welding and then precision machining points cam stops to provide 9 distributor degrees of internal advance.  Advance mechanism lubricated with CASTROL "Premium Heavy Duty" blue Lithium-based grease. 

Converted to dual-point configuration with single piece breaker plate and two sets of brand new heavy duty genuine BOSCH (P/N GB752) L34 Torana points fitted for much improved high RPM dwell behaviour

Vacuum advance deleted, vac advance can attach boss machined from housing and closing plate fitted

Custom advance springs fitted to provide single slope advance curve with onset of advance at 1200 crank RPM and full advance at 3200 crank RPM

Built to suit well-modified engine with significant camshaft overlap

Will allow increased static advance to be used as required by high performance camshaft and companion modifications without dangerous over-advance at elevated RPM

Consistent and correct dwell behaviour under test beyond 7500 crank RPM

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